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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m a jackass, but not because I use Guru.com</title>
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		<title>By: Nathan Ketsdever</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Ketsdever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for answering my question on Linked in.  Thanks to your advice, I&#039;m not signed up on Guru.  

Is the basic plan worth it or would you upgrade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answering my question on Linked in.  Thanks to your advice, I&#8217;m not signed up on Guru.  </p>
<p>Is the basic plan worth it or would you upgrade?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya Chris,

I probably do get undercut, but I&#039;m ok with that. I don&#039;t rely on Guru for my income, it&#039;s merely icing on the cake. In the two instances I&#039;ve mentioned, I&#039;ve created client relationships that I hope will last for many years. They&#039;re fun companies that value talent. THOSE are the gigs I want--they understand the worth of talent.

There are providers like that on Guru. If you mess around and bid enough on the site, you will get pretty good at picking out the ones that are worth your time based on the job listings. I have developed practically a 6th sense about it, so I rarely bid, but when I do my odds of being picked have been higher than 50% lately. 

It also helps once your reputation and feedback on there is developed. People can SEE your worth and therefore seem to be more willing to pay for it. That&#039;s just my theory right now, but I&#039;ve noticed an exponential increase in jobs I&#039;ve gotten as my feedback has grown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Chris,</p>
<p>I probably do get undercut, but I&#8217;m ok with that. I don&#8217;t rely on Guru for my income, it&#8217;s merely icing on the cake. In the two instances I&#8217;ve mentioned, I&#8217;ve created client relationships that I hope will last for many years. They&#8217;re fun companies that value talent. THOSE are the gigs I want&#8211;they understand the worth of talent.</p>
<p>There are providers like that on Guru. If you mess around and bid enough on the site, you will get pretty good at picking out the ones that are worth your time based on the job listings. I have developed practically a 6th sense about it, so I rarely bid, but when I do my odds of being picked have been higher than 50% lately. </p>
<p>It also helps once your reputation and feedback on there is developed. People can SEE your worth and therefore seem to be more willing to pay for it. That&#8217;s just my theory right now, but I&#8217;ve noticed an exponential increase in jobs I&#8217;ve gotten as my feedback has grown.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cagle</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought of using Guru like that before. 

If you quote and not bid -- you probably always get undercut by someone else then -- correct? If so, I am guessing that you are hoping that the providers of the job don&#039;t go for the lowest bid, but weigh in quality as well. 

I wonder if there are many providers like that out there? I always thought guru was about getting the lowest price possible. Disclaimer: I have never used Guru, and not really sure I ever will. But this article gave me different views on how Guru works. Kudos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought of using Guru like that before. </p>
<p>If you quote and not bid &#8212; you probably always get undercut by someone else then &#8212; correct? If so, I am guessing that you are hoping that the providers of the job don&#8217;t go for the lowest bid, but weigh in quality as well. </p>
<p>I wonder if there are many providers like that out there? I always thought guru was about getting the lowest price possible. Disclaimer: I have never used Guru, and not really sure I ever will. But this article gave me different views on how Guru works. Kudos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for the shout-out!  It&#039;s definitely true--you need to keep a variety of options open.  The Elance or Guru thing you have going on right now might be great, but you never know when they&#039;ll change the terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for the shout-out!  It&#8217;s definitely true&#8211;you need to keep a variety of options open.  The Elance or Guru thing you have going on right now might be great, but you never know when they&#8217;ll change the terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no, not YOU. Ahem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no, not YOU. Ahem.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Dunford</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi Dunford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally f-ing awesome, chickita. Even if you did totally abandon your loyal readers. (Cause yeah, I can talk. I would &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; do something like that. Cough.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally f-ing awesome, chickita. Even if you did totally abandon your loyal readers. (Cause yeah, I can talk. I would <em>never</em> do something like that. Cough.)</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firefox fixes those formatting issues in an Apple Product. Safari is not too friendly, especially to WordPress users. Glad to see you wrote something. 

Also, Tiny MCE has a great itty bitty plugin for comments. You might want to have someone install it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox fixes those formatting issues in an Apple Product. Safari is not too friendly, especially to WordPress users. Glad to see you wrote something. </p>
<p>Also, Tiny MCE has a great itty bitty plugin for comments. You might want to have someone install it.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://voxfortis.com/blog/2008/im-a-jackass-but-not-because-i-use-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone who&#039;s come by thanks to StumbleUpon, make yourselves known. At least say hi or something, jeez. :)

Also, my apologies to all for odd space and such. This was my first blog post from my Apple, and the coding was giving me some serious issues, some of which I apparently didn&#039;t catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone who&#8217;s come by thanks to StumbleUpon, make yourselves known. At least say hi or something, jeez. <img src='http://voxfortis.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, my apologies to all for odd space and such. This was my first blog post from my Apple, and the coding was giving me some serious issues, some of which I apparently didn&#8217;t catch.</p>
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